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Old 01-14-2008, 10:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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MinorLeagueInk IP 2008 Experiences

First 2008 IP signings and first since the end of the minor league season. It felt good get back into it. I froze right along with Travis and Derek, but it was certainly worth it! We were able to get into both signings! Here is what I got:

J.J. Hardy 2/2 Both of my '03 bowman chrome gold refractor rc's
Ryan Braun 1/2
Rickie Weeks 1/2
Corey Hart 1/2
Yovani Gallardo 1/2 Signed it perfectly
David Riske 1/1
Salomon Torres 1/1

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Wow, those look awesome i just dont know if i could bring myself to getting those two signed.
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I didn't have a second thought. Last year I got a Travis Snider Xfractor rc signed and ever since I've been hooked on getting parallels signed. They are simply gorgeous. They look even better in a PSA/DNA case.
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Sweet man, always share scans they do look great.
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Old 01-15-2008, 12:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Sweet man, always share scans they do look great.
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Braun on a card? Will you be seeing these guys again? If you wanna 50/50 OMLBs, I'm dying to get a Braun.

P.S. Nice stuff.
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I didn't have a second thought. Last year I got a Travis Snider Xfractor rc signed and ever since I've been hooked on getting parallels signed. They are simply gorgeous. They look even better in a PSA/DNA case.
Aren't those gold refractors worth like $150 each. From what I understand getting them signed brings the value way down correct?
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Wow, those look awesome i just dont know if i could bring myself to getting those two signed.
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I didn't have a second thought. Last year I got a Travis Snider Xfractor rc signed and ever since I've been hooked on getting parallels signed. They are simply gorgeous. They look even better in a PSA/DNA case.
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Aren't those gold refractors worth like $150 each. From what I understand getting them signed brings the value way down correct?
It does devalue them but they're more fun to get signed as Joe stated. Those pics don't even do justice for those cards, they looked so amazing signed in person haha.
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Aren't those gold refractors worth like $150 each. From what I understand getting them signed brings the value way down correct?
I have heard this said before. I am not sure I buy this theory though. I will probably pay $20.00 each to have these cards slabbed as DNA / PSA authentic. Once they are slabbed authentic and graded they are very sharp looking. If I were to sell them, which I won't, I would venture to guess that they would pull in at least $200.00 a piece. If they graded high they could be worth even more. Ultimately, they are for my personal collection anyways, so value is not the final concern.


Check out the following Snider card. It would take some real serious convincing, to tell me that this card would sell for more than a Snider unsigned refractor in a PSA10. I know the Hardy's are gold refractor's, which are a bit different but I think the idea holds true for all parallels. Just my opinion. I think it is an interesting debate. I think it parallels when collectors said that getting cards signed made cards worth less, which I think most agree now is not true.

Any other opinions?

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Ultimately, they are for my personal collection anyways, so value is not the final concern.
Agreed and that's all that should matter. Nice cards.

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I think if they're for PC, great. Something like in Snyder's case, the gold would be worth more without a signature, but if they're for PC, you can't place a value on it.
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I get refractors, Xfractors, and some gold refractors signed. IF it's a no name guy or has been prospect I will get the higher end parallels signed. If it's a top notch prospect or star player, I won't get it signed. And in the case of your Snider I don't believe the signed version would fetch more than the unsigned version. Maybe now it would, but if he turns out to be say - Matt Holliday like the new rookie rolodex projects him to be, he def. won't sell more signed. Last August, 2005 Bowman Chrome refractors of Clay Buchholz were selling in the $30-$40 range on ebay and I wanted one. There was an auction for a signed one (and the sig was legit) and I won it for $13. When I got it, I removed the sig and now have the more valuable refractor version for my collection. I also have a blue refractor of the same card that sells about $120+ and I wouldn't get it signed. I've seen people at shows trying to sell signed 1984 Fleer Update Roger Clemens for $100 and not get a bite (when this card was selling raw for over $200 at the time). If it's for your personal collection and you never look at values of autographs, then go for it. I know ultimately my entire collection will go to my kids so I do look at the value side of things 50% of the time, and the fun of collecting the other 50% of the time.
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I get refractors, Xfractors, and some gold refractors signed. IF it's a no name guy or has been prospect I will get the higher end parallels signed. If it's a top notch prospect or star player, I won't get it signed. And in the case of your Snider I don't believe the signed version would fetch more than the unsigned version. Maybe now it would, but if he turns out to be say - Matt Holliday like the new rookie rolodex projects him to be, he def. won't sell more signed. Last August, 2005 Bowman Chrome refractors of Clay Buchholz were selling in the $30-$40 range on ebay and I wanted one. There was an auction for a signed one (and the sig was legit) and I won it for $13. When I got it, I removed the sig and now have the more valuable refractor version for my collection. I also have a blue refractor of the same card that sells about $120+ and I wouldn't get it signed. I've seen people at shows trying to sell signed 1984 Fleer Update Roger Clemens for $100 and not get a bite (when this card was selling raw for over $200 at the time). If it's for your personal collection and you never look at values of autographs, then go for it. I know ultimately my entire collection will go to my kids so I do look at the value side of things 50% of the time, and the fun of collecting the other 50% of the time.
I agree with you that a raw signed version of a card would certainly not reach the level of an unsigned one. If it is slabbed PSA / DNA then that will add tremendous value to the card and ease a buyer's piece of mind that the card is authentic therefore lowering any possible inhibitions. Alex, was your buchholz slabbed by PSA / DNA? I gues the only way to find out would be for me to sell the card, which is not happening anytime soon. Oh well, the debate rages on.
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$120 buckholtz? Maybe a good time to sell it, years down the road pitchers cards , in the majority of cases, sure seem to depreciate. But you can say that about 99% of the prospect's cards.
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$120 buckholtz? Maybe a good time to sell it, years down the road pitchers cards , in the majority of cases, sure seem to depreciate. But you can say that about 99% of the prospect's cards.
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