Kusnick ruins another good signer - Page 2

tummy34 · 10-04-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by alanmoore

The only reason anyone brings up Kusnick if because he's a member here.

Wrong Alan,

The reason he is brought up is because he used to be a collector and absolutely kill the players in the Florida State League (I remember 90+ on guys). He took a lot of heat over it and used to get all worked up and mad. Now he is the total opposite and the reason behind the players not signing. That is why he is brought up.

bearfan1 · 10-04-2008, 01:52 PM

this looks like its gonna get ugly. I don't know the whole story on this guy and how he gets these players to sign a bunch or whatever the case is... this hobby is getting difficult for everyone, somehow.

Dave

jbsouth · 10-04-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by El Scorcho

Dont act like you have never worked a parking lot before. That is just what you do at instrux, spring training, Bowie - a vet like you should know that. If it was anybody but the "agent" you would not have asked that question.

I am still waiting for an answer - why is he on this board? Does he collect IP? TTM? WHAT DOES HE CONTRIBUTE OTHER THAN AGGRAVATION???? Or is making our lives miserable part of his "business"....sorry...his daddy's "business".....

Why do you defend him so much?

I think the reason he shows up is that he's a former collector who deep down misses it. He was big into collecting 6-8 years ago-- I even did some 50-50s with him (which stopped when he took 2 or 3 years to get some of my stuff back) but I'm sure Josh has matured into a respectable businessman.

He just (subliminally) misses chasing graphs and is living vicariously through us. If he really wanted to make it interesting, he'd have his guys vary their habits. e.g. not sign for three days then sign multiples for everyone one day. We could all be his lab rats for a Psych 101 experiment.

Authenticink · 10-04-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by alanmoore

SO why did you follow the dude in the parking lot? Just asking?

I've seen some of Kusnicks clients this season and most of them signed quantity in person and TTM. Sure he has a few whack jobs but not all of that is his doing, some is, some aint. All agencies have the same stuff when you have 30-40 clients. I know Lars Anderson and Will Middlebrooks are told by their agency to personalize or not sign more than one. The only reason anyone brings up Kusnick if because he's a member here.

Alan, come on, this goes further than because Kusnick is a member here. THAT has NOT A THING to do with it. If you can name any other agents that tell their clients not to sign certain cards, then let me know. EVERY player I had ran into that said they cant sign certain cards because THEIR agent told them not to, and when asked who their agent was, the response was KUSNICK. Please stop defending him. I know you have to play both sides, one with the members of the board and then you have to keep in good standing with Kusnick to keep the benefits that you receive from him.

tummy34 · 10-04-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Authenticink

keep in good standing with Kusnick to keep the benefits that you receive from him.

Things that make you say...hmmm...I wonder what the benefits are?

gorphils · 10-04-2008, 03:23 PM

I was wondering the same thing tummy!

alanmoore · 10-04-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by El Scorcho

Dont act like you have never worked a parking lot before. That is just what you do at instrux, spring training, Bowie - a vet like you should know that. If it was anybody but the "agent" you would not have asked that question.

I am still waiting for an answer - why is he on this board? Does he collect IP? TTM? WHAT DOES HE CONTRIBUTE OTHER THAN AGGRAVATION???? Or is making our lives miserable part of his "business"....sorry...his daddy's "business".....

Why do you defend him so much?

He does collect autographs, just not current players.

As for defending him, I just dont pile on like all you others. The fact of the matter is there are other Michael Brantleys out there in minor league ball and never do I see their agents name brought up on the site. NOT ONCE. As a grapher, this IS HOW the industry IS NOW. You either deal with it and still collect or you walk away and dont. Its simple.

alanmoore · 10-04-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Authenticink

Alan, come on, this goes further than because Kusnick is a member here. THAT has NOT A THING to do with it. If you can name any other agents that tell their clients not to sign certain cards, then let me know. EVERY player I had ran into that said they cant sign certain cards because THEIR agent told them not to, and when asked who their agent was, the response was KUSNICK. Please stop defending him. I know you have to play both sides, one with the members of the board and then you have to keep in good standing with Kusnick to keep the benefits that you receive from him.

Brian, you are kidding me right? There are tons of minor league players that played ball this past year that would side panel, personalize, not sign TTM, not sign certain items and now with Razor, dont get me started on that.

Where are the names of their agents? The fact of the matter if some on here only bring Kusnick's name up because he is the only agents name you know. Period!

Authenticink · 10-04-2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by alanmoore

Brian, you are kidding me right? There are tons of minor league players that played ball this past year that would side panel, personalize, not sign TTM, not sign certain items and now with Razor, dont get me started on that.

Where are the names of their agents? The fact of the matter if some on here only bring Kusnick's name up because he is the only agents name you know. Period!

Correction, once again, THE PLAYERS who dont sign certain cards when asked who their agent is ONLY have brought up Kusnicks name to me, period. Those are the facts IN MY WORLD, I dont know what goes on in anyone elses world.

jetpig00 · 10-04-2008, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Authenticink

Correction, once again, THE PLAYERS who dont sign certain cards when asked who their agent is ONLY have brought up Kusnicks name to me, period. Those are the facts IN MY WORLD, I dont know what goes on in anyone elses world.

Yeah I agree with this. Ford(bowman), Brantely(bowman), Chapman(bowman)... I see a pattern....

bensont99 · 10-04-2008, 06:06 PM

I always find it somewhat humorous when a player rejects someone for an autograph and then the person goes on a rant about how bad that player is. Don't be offended, I'm sure I have done it myself. The question then is if this player will be washed up in a year or two, why do we want their autograph so badly? Likewise if the player is just a no good so and so, why do we want their autograph?

Authenticink · 10-04-2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bensont99

I always find it somewhat humorous when a player rejects someone for an autograph and then the person goes on a rant about how bad that player is. Don't be offended, I'm sure I have done it myself. The question then is if this player will be washed up in a year or two, why do we want their autograph so badly? Likewise if the player is just a no good so and so, why do we want their autograph?

I agree with what you are saying, but then I can see the other side of it by people who want to complete sets. Also, for guys who ever played maybe 1 game in the Majors to a few games ever and then fell off the face of the earth, those are the obscure guys who are sometimes very hard to find, many people put together autographs of every player who ever played for a certain team. If ever you had done research on Ebay or any other place selling obscure autographs of random nobodys you will see the they sometimes fetch high prices, sometimes higher than what you would ever think that you would get for the item, of course that is if you are willing sell any of your collection

AutographLegend55 · 10-04-2008, 06:38 PM

Ok, now my turn. We pile on Kusnick because like everyone has stated, it always seems to be him behind it. If I find out it's other agents, then they will also be called out. But so far it never has been. It's always Kusnick.

Alan, I agree with El Scorcho, I know you are not that naive. You know parking lots are a good place to get autos. It's not like Warren was all I needed and I know you know better.

Also, Will Middlebrooks may be told by his agents to only sign 1, but he signed a page of 9 the other day in Ft. Myers. Kusnick seems to drive the message home especially well. Like I said, it's always his clients, and only his who won't sign "certain" cards so to drive up a demand for a later private signing.

It speaks volumes when a guy like Terrance Warren who would sign anything you put in front of him in March turns into a pompous ass in 6 months time. My friend Steve asked him to sign today, and he got shot down even though he was the only one. All signs point to Kusnick.

bc81758 · 10-04-2008, 08:16 PM

If you guys want an example of an agent's influence on a minor league player, take Matt Laporta. If I am not mistaken, Scott Boras is his agent. Tim Beckahm's agent is Greg Genske.

It's a new world of graphing that you either accept or you do something else.
End of discussion. I'd also like to see this topic end. If you want to bash agents, create a website dedicated to it.

AutographLegend55 · 10-04-2008, 11:03 PM

Not end of discussion. This is autographtalk. We paid our 5 bucks to join and this is quite relevant to the hobby. If you don't like it, click on another thread and don't read this one.